Regarding the last post and most importantly regarding the ARYANS and SCYTHIAN. There has been a substantial finding by many scholars, who classify Scythians as a sub-family of Aryans. As these Scythian were the Eastern European-Indo-Iranian proto people who migrated into north India in 2 century BC. There is always a likelihood of being identified differently from the original Aryan natives in India who have been living there since 4ooo BC. ( atleast of what is known.)
The Pashtuns, Yakuts,Ossetians, Kazakhs and Jats claim their linage from Scythian WAR-LORDs which is substantiated, but that may not be true or Rajputs who claim “PURE” Aryan blood ( They might be a product of ancient Aryans who came to Sub continent earlier, they have no connection to Scythians but must be part of larger Aryan family). Pashtuns for one are part of eastern Iranian bloodline, with Greek DNA added. Jats also are a by product of Eastern-Iranian bloodline. Jats are a Scythian-Aryan ethnic group with traces of Greek ancestry( Though the historical records showing as Scythians, a sub family of Aryans. They are classified as Indo-Aryan ethnic group by modern day scholars).
As history show that prior to Scythians , Indo-greeks use to rule north-west Indian sub continent. These kingdoms were defeated by the Scythian warriors, who then married many Indo-greek and Indo-aryan women. The formation of a “new” race in sub-continent took place.
There are a few links which one would like to offer, for those who wish to read about Scythians:
http://listverse.com/2010/01/05/top-10-interesting-facts-about-the-scythians/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dragons/esp_sociopol_dragoncourt02_01.htm
http://www.imninalu.net/Eurasians.htm
http://heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/saka/index.htm
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=52282
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azes_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race
http://www.lost-civilizations.net/scythians.html
Scythian women
They represented the equality as they fought along side their men in battlefields. In the current central Asia one could only find the traces of such equality.The act of war was one in which the Scythian women are said to have participated in equally with the men. Scythian women were tattooed like their mates, and the ancient historian Diordorus commented that Scythian women ‘fight like the men and are nowise inferior to them in bravery’.
It has been recorded that Scythian women had to kill three enemies in battle before marrying, and that a mastectomy of the right breast was performed on female infants so that their pectoral muscle wouldn’t weaken and they would be able to brandish a sword better.
http://www.fscclub.com/history/scyths-e.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons#Scythians_and_Sarmatians
http://anti-amazon.blogspot.com/2010/11/iranian-peoples-sarmatians-women.html
Very fascinating post on the Scythians. Does it really mean it could be possible they could be related to the present Iranians and therefore, possibly be the early Eurasians? (just my thought)
Yes that may be… but Parthians were the cousins of Scythians ( as the modern anthropologist like to call them). The Iranians as such considered themselves Aryans. However it is also recorded that Scythian fought wars against the Persians. It has been documented in many records.
Wow that was odd. I just wrote an very long comment but after I clicked submit my comment didn’t show up. Grrrr… well I’m not writing all that over again. Anyhow, just wanted to say wonderful blog!
My Quest for Punjabi Blood links with Persia….What are your views on the same?
first of all the Punjabi word is a regionalistic term. I would say more in terms of northern Indian states such as himachal,kashmir, punjab,haryana and delhi have many genetic similarities with the Iranian counter parts. Infact many are Indo-Iranian groups which came to define north Indian identity..
When you say Punjabi it is not just khatri or arora who are Punjabi. Though it seems that they have in recent times “PATENTED” it for themselves. As though they are the ONLY PUNJABI ethnic group on earth is simply NOT TRUE and highly miss guided representation of facts. Jats, Rajputs, Gujjar, Lohar, Pashtuns are also Punjabi.. and in some cases Brahmins too such as Punjabi saraswat Brahmins or Mohals
You have not write about the amazing similarity between thracians and scythians. The fact is that the same branch or tribe was called thracian or dacian in the west of the Black See, but scythian in the east of the Black See or of the Tanais river. Massagetae form central Asia have a name that mean „The Great Getae”. The word „Getae” is commonly understand in Romania, Bulgaria and other european countrys like „Dacians”, aka the nord-thracians. Especially the thracians form the lower Danube were called Getae. Of course, the Jats think themselves to be the descendents of the central-asiatic Getae (and I think it is true) and called this Getae (to be) Scythians.
The truth is that the Thracians and Scythians were clousely related, they were spoken close dialects of the same language.
Thanks for the information. I will look into it. 🙂
I forgot something! In your map Dacia is figured outside of Scythia. This is wrong. Scythians are attested even in the east of Dacia, and have a powerfull presence in Transilvania and Muntenia. In Dobruja were a number of tribs called sometimes Getae, sometimes Scythians, so the region was called itself Scithia Minor (Little Scythia) even by the Roman Empire itself!
So, I think is necessary to redraw the map in this part, because the Dacia was a part of the Scythians world.
Btw, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the nord-east border of the Scythia is not right. In Tuva (from today Russia) are very powerfull traces of the scythian live, including some spectacular royal graves, with very beautiful artefacts. And Tuva seems to me to be outside the border you draw on this map.
I will give you one scientific link, about the Tuvan Scythians, with the hope that you will not find it inappropiate: http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/btn_Archeology/ScythianC14En.htm
Thank you for the link, I will go through it.